More and more I m glad that I am now registered as a permanent absentee voter. My ballot is cast on paper. Still no guarantee that my vote is counted correctly, but at least I don't have to worry about using one of these machines.

Wow. This is the way votes are archived on Diebold systems? With random notebooks running Windows and unknown combinations of other apps? Untrained users dragging and dropping files into folders under the supervision of one technical guy? Wow.

BTW, the time of the post above says it's 10:45am but it was actually 9:45am. Looks like a DST problem.

Maybe we could switch to some better, safer system, like jars of different color jelly beans? Anything sounds better than this mess.

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I'm disgusted, but not shocked. Our governments handle elections -- the foundation of our democratic republic -- as an afterthought worth only substandard effort. And we don't punish them for it and force them to adopt procedures worthy of our votes.

C'mon - why the surprise here. This is EXACTLY what the machine wants: People that don't understand the technology they are charged with running and the absence of simple standardized procedures that could mitigate many of the problems and security risks involved. The new "voting" system was arguably deliberately built to be susceptible to manipulation. Building a secure electronic voting system is trivial. Yet the companies producing truly secure voting solutions (http://www.votehere.net/default.php) are routinely denigrated in the press and by our congress critters (beware the government/media complex!).

Why the unnecessary added complexity and lack of any relevant procedures? My guess is that it was done so that each election would be "open to the highest bidder." Crazy? Cynical? Whacko conspiracy theory? ... maybe ... but, in any case ...

welcome to the machine.

VoteHere has a variety of issues, not the least of which that its use of cryptography makes it unverifiable by all but a tiny subset of the population. Also it doesn't protect against presentation frauds (e.g., modulating the sensitivity of touchscreens, omitting candidates from the ballot, reordering the ballot, etc., so as to influence malleable voters' actual choices).

The only "secure" voting system is one that is publicly supervised and audited every step of the way.

Joe,

Yes, I should have made that more clear in the original post. I updated the post with a clarification.

Rich Gibbs: You're exactly correct. We should use election systems that any person of ordinary intelligence and training can administer properly and securely by relying on her intuition. This is because most people -- even professionals -- rely on intuition most of the time. Unless everyone who must maintain a security perimeter intuitively understands the reasons for each defense, they are unlikely to maintain the perimeter adequately.

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